More False Flag Terror Coming - Pretext for Police State, Internet Restrictions, Martial Law and War

by ChaosNavigator 

Main article is here; one of the best compilations about the Charlie Hebdo attack anomalies and the context of false flag state terrorism that you can find on internet. In addition, some other important news about Russia, war, internet restrictions, and finally some future perspectives

Warning to all potential 'useful idiots':

NEVER forget: Governments ADMIT the use of false flag state-sponsored terror operations to manipulate populations and subvert countries 

 The Guardian: 'Government agents 'directly involved' in MOST high-profile US terror plots' - 2014

New York Times: Most Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.

FBI organizes almost all terror plots in the US — RT USA

Fear of Terror Makes People Stupid
In the real world, statistics from a 2004 National Safety Council report, the National Center for Health Statistics, the U.S. Census Bureau, and 2003 mortality data from the Center for Disease Control show: You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack. You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack. You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist..

Weekly updates:

26 january 2015 - Veterans Today
Charlie Hebdo bombshell! Suicided officer’s family denied access to autopsy

22 january 2015 - The Telegraph
Europol 'to be given new internet watchdog powers'
The EU is planning to give Europe’s police intelligence agency, Europol, new powers to become a European internet watchdog and censor, according to a secret policy document. The measures also include controls to have internet content removed as a key part of a Europe-wide response to terrorism after the Paris attacks two weeks ago.

22 january 2015 - EU Observer 
EU wants internet firms to hand over encryption keys
A top EU official wants internet and telecommunication companies to hand over encryption keys to police and spy agencies as part of a wider crackdown on terrorism. The EU’s counter-terrorism co-ordinator Gilles de Kerchove, in a document leaked by London-based civil liberties group Statewatch, says the European Commission should come up with rules that require the firms to help national governments snoop on possible suspects. 

22 january 2015 - Jay's Analysis
Vindicated: Gladio B, Paris Terror & ISIS Fakery Admitted
On top of all this, the new boogeyman of rebranded Al Qaeda known as ISIS has been openly admitted today to be a scam from high level CIA and General Kevin Bergner.  Readers may recall my February 2013 article where I cited Bruce Riedel lecturing the Brookings Institute on false flags, as apparently the corporate head audience had never heard of this idea.  This demonstrates Riedel is not a nobody, but a veteran of the deep state who openly discusses false flags and the staged nature of ISIS.  The 2007 New York Times article “The Leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq was Fictional, U.S. Military Says,” states, via Zero Hedge

20 january 2015 - Wayne Madsen via SOTT
Charlie Hebdo's Zionist agenda and its anti-Gentile alliesIn the wake of the terrorist attack against the French satirical newspaper «Charlie Hebdo», it has become apparent that the magazine's editorial chiefs killed in the attack on its headquarters in Paris and groups such as FEMEN and Pussy Riot are all connected in a campaign to disparage Islam and Christianity.

19 january 2015 - Henry Makow
France's First False Flag: The Dreyfus Affair

The Dreyfus Affair (1894-1906) traumatized and transformed France much like Charlie Hebdo is doing today. Edmund de Rothschild arranged for an innocent Jew, Captain Alfred Dreyfus, to be charged with spying. This aroused anti-Semitism so Jews would go to Israel, as is happening today. Later,  when the real spy, Esterhazy, a secret Rothschild agent, confessed, Jews were vindicated and Patriotic France disgraced.

19 january 2015  Goon Squad
Charlie Hebdo Attack: The Kouachi brothers died from CPS---Chronic Patsy Syndrome

18 january 2015 - 21st Century Wire
FULL THROTTLE: Anti-Terror Raids ‘Rolled Out’ After Paris Attacks Expose Western Fraud

18 january 2015 Global Research - by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky
State Sponsored Terrorism: Who Was Behind the Charlie Hebdo Paris Attacks?

18 january 2015 - Refreshing News
Obama and Cameron’s ‘solutions’ for cybersecurity will make the internet worse

18 january 2015 - InvestmentWatch
Police State: Domestic Troops in the Streets of France, UK, Belgium and Ukraine

As many as 300 military will be stationed at locations like the U.S. and Israeli embassies in Brussels and NATO and European Union institutions, Reuters reports.

18 january 2015 - The Daily Mail
PETER HITCHENS: Don't like the PC mob? Well now that makes YOU a terror threat

We are on the verge of founding Britain’s first Thought Police. Using the excuse of terrorism – whose main victim is considered thought – Theresa May’s Home Office is making a law which attacks free expression in this country as it has never been attacked before.  We already have some dangerous laws on the books. The Civil Contingencies Act can be used to turn Britain into a dictatorship overnight, if politicians can find an excuse to activate it.  But the Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill, now slipping quietly and quickly through Parliament, is in a way even worse. It tells us what opinions we should have, or should not have.

18 january 2015 - Washingtonsblog
Islamic State Has Tripled Its Territory In Syria Since U.S. Started Airstrikes (Just as US wanted it in the first place)

17 january 2015 - by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Charlie Hebdo: Report from Europe

There are three videos. The first one repeatedly shows Coulibaly with tied hands containing no weapons shot down and killed when he could easily have been captured. It is as if the order was to make sure that there is no live suspect whose story might have to be explained away... The “mainstream” print and TV media parrot the official line and raise no unsettling questions. The independent Internet media is where real information is reported.

17 january 2015 NoDisinfo
Paris Terror Attacks were a Government Orchestrated Hoax, Says Local Paris Correspondent

 17 january 2015 - RT
NSA develops cyber weapons, ‘attacker mindset’ for domination in digital war – Snowden leaks
Mass surveillance by the NSA was apparently just the beginning. The agency is now preparing for future wars in cyberspace, in which control over the internet and rival networks will be the key to victory, documents leaked by Edward Snowden reveal.

17 january 2015 RT
Charlie Hebdo fallout: Belgium deploys troops, UK raises terror alert to 'severe' -
Europe is in a state of high alert

17 january 2015 Global Research
“Je Suis CIA”
Since 9/11, the imperial playbook has consisted of time-tested tactic: the false flag operation. Carry out or facilitate a spectacular atrocity. Blame it on the enemy of choice. Issue a lie-infested official narrative, and have the corporate media repeat the lie. Rile up militant crowds, stoke the hatred, wage war with the public stamp of approval.

17 january 2015 - The Daily Mail
Anti-terror chief tells police not to go out on the streets alone amid rising fears of a plot to murder an officer - as Met deploy hundreds more armed officers

Armed and ready: The equipment carried by some armed officers in London, here outside Horse Guards

17 january 2015 - InvestmentWatch

17 january 2015 - Zero Hedge
The Truth "Behind" The Charlie Hebdo Solidarity Photo-Op
French TV has exposed the reality of the 'photo-op' seen-around-the-world: the 'dignitaries' were not in fact "at" the Paris rallies but had the photo taken on an empty guarded side street.

17 january 2015
Charlie Hebdo: The hidden agenda (video)

17 january 2015 Global Research - By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Ruin Is Our Future
Neoconservatives arrayed in their Washington offices are congratulating themselves on their success in using the Charlie Hebdo affair to reunite Europe with Washington’s foreign policy.

17 january 2015 - WashingtonsBlog
Stunning Terrorism Statistics that Nobody Wants You to Know

16 january 2015 - The Guardian
Lavabit founder condemns David Cameron's 'insane' plan to ban encryption
British prime minister David Cameron’s calls to stop tech firms from protecting their users’ information with encryption technology are “insane”, according to the man who once ran NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden’s secure email account.  Ladar Levison, founder of the encrypted email service Lavabit, made his comments as Cameron lobbied Barack Obama to press US technology companies to give law enforcement greater access to encrypted communications, following the deadly attack on the Paris office of the magazine Charlie Hebdo.

16 january 2015 Komsomolskaya Pravda via SOTT
Jean-Marie Le Pen to Russian newspaper: 'Charlie Hebdo attack has the hallmarks of being a secret service operation'

16 january 2015 RT
Over 20 terror suspects arrested in massive ops across Belgium, France and Germany

16 january 2015 RT
‘Death to blasphemers’: Muslims protest new Charlie Hebdo cartoons across the globe

16 january 2015 Global Research
The Charlie Hebdo Paris Terrorist Attacks and the “Clash of Civilizations”
To the US, French and other Western powers who are anxious to justify their imperial policies of regime change in the Muslim world, the mindless Paris attacks must feel like manna from heaven, crocodile tears for the victims of the assault notwithstanding. The attacks are expediently utilized to justify not only the imperialist aggressions abroad but also escalate the police/security/intelligence 

16 January 2015 - Washingtons Blog
Authoritarians Use Paris Terror Attack As Excuse for Power Grab

January 16 2015 - Activist Post
Paris Shooting = Problem. Reaction. Solution.
David Icke covers how events like the Paris shooting are staged and used for a larger purpose that we see unfolding around us. Whether the event was complete theater or an actual terrorist murder spree is of no importance to the success of advancing the agenda.

16 january 2015 Global Research
The Escalating War on Islam. The Phony War On Terror

16 january 2015 Global Research
Paris Charlie: The “Shock Doctrine” par Excellence
On 12 January the French Parliament approved with almost unanimity – with one abstention only – the budget for France’s continuous and enlarged involvement in the new war on Iraq, a new war engagement led by Washington and supported by its vassals, UK, Canada, Australia and France. Aircraft carriers and troops were immediately mobilized, not even losing a day. Doesn’t that conspicuously smell of an earlier preparation, just waiting for that crucial and appropriate event, prompting parliamentary approval?  

January 16 2015
FBI Spoil Their Own Capitol Terror Plot to Sow Fear: “There Was Never A Danger to the Public”

January 15 Zero Hedge
What Will You Do When Government Tyranny And Terrorism Work Hand In Hand?
It is clear by the language being used by the political elite that the “global summit” called in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attacks is about far more than radical Islamic terrorism.
We do not need more government. We do not need more surveillance, more police militarization or more troops on the streets. What we need is to take back responsibility for own defense.

January 15
2015 Activist Post
A PATRIOT Act For Europe?

January 15 2015 RT
EU anti-terror alert: 2 suspects killed, 1 captured in Belgium raid

January 15 2015 Activist Post
FBI Thwarts Terror Plot on Capitol (That They Planned)
The FBI is at it again. Creating fake terror plots to justify their existence. And this plot hits on all the themes one would expect from a good fake terror plot.

January 15 2015 Global Research
Yes, the New Charlie Hebdo Cover is Offensive
Those who want to claim we are in the midst of a clash of civilisations have an easy time perpetuating their narrative. Just look at the very different responses to the new Charlie Hebdo cover.

January 15
2015 Global Research - By Prof Michel Chossudovsky
Charlie Hebdo: Mystery Surrounding Death of French Policemen
Officially three police officers were killed  and were honored by president While the video footage aired on network TV has since been removed, the French authorities as well as the media have stuck to their fake story: Merhabet was shot to the head in the street close to Charlie Hebdo’s office .

January 15
2015 Sputnik News
Three Reported Killed and One Injured in Belgian Police Anti-Terror Raid

January 14 2015 - YouTube
The Rothschilds Own Charlie Hebdo?

January 14, 2015 The Mirror UK
Paris terror attacks: Did the French know about the planned atrocities in advance?
Secret service agents moved in to capture suspected Paris terror fixer Hayat Boumeddiene – 48 hours BEFORE the Charlie Hebdo attacks.

January 14, 2015 Activist Post
15 Signs The Charlie Hebdo Attack Was A False Flag

January 14, 2015 - Global Research, By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
The Charlie Hebdo Attack: Characteristics of a False Flag Operation?
The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists’ office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people.

SOTT Comment: We can only agree with Paul Craig Roberts' sentiments above. The public needs to start looking at history more objectively and realize that the world is rife with false flag operations used to control public opinion. It's standard operating procedure, yet most people will deny it, simply because they do not want to believe their beloved leaders are capable of such action. It's time to get over that illusion, and start looking at the world as it is. No one is going to save you, it's up to you to liberate yourselves. 

14 january 2015 SOTT
Paris terror attacks: SOP for Western Intel agencies

January 14, 2015 Activist Post
Calls for an EU Superstate Intelligence Agency Follow Hebdo Attack…
As Planned

13 jan 2015 Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars
Economist: World Leaders Will Exploit Charlie Hebdo to Eliminate Encryption - 'They will use this to strip us of all rights'.

Economist Martin Armstrong warns that the twin attacks in France will be used by world leaders to push for restrictions on Internet privacy and the total elimination of encrypted communications.  Armstrong, who correctly predicted the 1987 Black Monday crash as well as the 1998 Russian financial collapse, writes that, “They are using this latest event precisely as they used 911 to strip us of all rights.”

12 january 2015 RT
New online video shows Charlie Hebdo attackers shooting at police

13 january, 2015 Zero Hedge
Turkish President's Stunning Outburst: The French Are Behind The Charlie Hebdo Massacre; Mossad Blamed 

12 january 2015 Sgt Report
FALSE FLAG 101: From Gladio To Hebdo -- A SGT Report micro-doc

13 january 2015 - Red Ice Creations
Man Who Filmed Terrorists Shooting Paris Cop Says He Regrets Sharing Video - Really? Wonder Why

12 january, 2015 21st Century Wire
‘JE SUIS HYPOCRITE’: Enemies of Press Freedom Hijack ‘Charlie’ in Paris

January 13, 2015 Washington Post
CNN won’t republish Charlie Hebdo cartoons, will republish al-Qaeda propaganda

Via Jim Stone - Did you miss this anomaly?
Don't say it''s a 'coincidence' cause that is not an explanation! Please use the simplest logic that a 5-year old child is capable of: The second line wasn't there from the start but appears in just 20 seconds!? From the video clip that was aired live on the international France 24 TV station:
                                  Take a look in front of the car. There is a marker line there. Some have said this is just a fluid leak but it is obviously not, because in the next frames we see the continuity error - another line magically appears on the road at a 90 degree angle. Fluid leaks will not do that, they are obviously painted lines being used as cue marks for where to put the car, and this terror scene was done in multiple takes. 
Take a look in front of the car. There is a marker line there. Some
have said this is just a fluid leak but it is obviously not, because in
the next frames we see the continuity error – another line magically
appears on the road at a 90 degree angle. Fluid leaks will not do that (and besides; it is in front of the right wheel, not parallel with the engine)
and not in they are obviously painted lines being used as cue marks for where
to put the car, and this terror scene was done in multiple takes. No 90 degree perpendicular line was there before they get out, check for yourself: 

In general, the sum of all anomalies in the Hedbo affair, the irregularities are too many , even if this single 'fluid'-anomaly can be debunked. But of course there must be some "other explanation" to all the damning anomalies. What? Your cognitive dissonance? 

All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
—Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

11 jan, 2015 Yahoo News
Internet Censorhip and Border Monitoring "Needed to Thwart Further Attacks" says French Minister

Red Ice Comment: Terrorism hits home. The establishment in Europe is jumping on the opportunity to make life more difficult for Europeans, as we are the ones who will be treated like terrorists. We have in the line up: More internet censorship, more surveillance at home and more funding for wars abroad that will lead to further intervention policies and attacks. Why not instead stop the failed multicultural experiment that has enabled such attacks to take place in the first place and then also back out of the middle east and stop funding terrorists groups in Syria and other countries. No instead the focus will turn inward, why? Because sadly, Europe have dropped their guards and let known terrorists back into the continent (Divide and Conquer)  Below is the story from AFP:

Comment on the Red Ice comment: It's not the multicultural experiment that's the cause per se but false flag state-fabricated and sponsored terrorperception management, mainstream media manipulation, and the lowered guard is deliberate, not 'failed' but a success in the eyes of the elites (with the help of useful idiots and ignorance) - all as pretext for pre-planned internet restrictions, criminalizing dissenters, 'legitimizing' more centralization of power and control, martial law and suspension of civil liberty rights, before the final economic collapse and wars expand = (New World) Order out of chaos. Predicted long time ago. Create the problems - let the unwitting brainwashed public respond as you wished for in the first place - and present the pre-planned 'solution'. Exactly like Oklohoma, 9/11, 7/7, the Charlie Hedbo false flag, etc. was designed to do! One step at a time they will strip the naive masses of their freedom and usher in the draconian full-fledged new world order unless the majority of blissful ignorants and useful idiots wake up! 

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”– Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

January 12, 2015 Euronews
France boosts its domestic security by deploying 10,000 troops on the streets 
Smarting at criticism from some quarters that their security services dropped the ball over the Charlie Hebdo attacks, and failed to prevent them despite knowing about the authors beforehand, the French are stepping up security. Some 10,000 troops are being deployed to train stations, shopping centres, and areas of high pedestrian density.

January 12, 2015 The Independent UK
Paris march: TV wide shots reveal a different perspective on world leaders at largest demonstration in France’s history
Critics suggest images show dignitaries 'didn't lead march' after all, but many still speak positively about display of global unity

View image on Twitter

January 11, 2015 The Express UK
SAS troops are now patrolling the streets of Britain as Al Qaeda warns 'you're next' 

The elite Special Forces have joined counter-terror police and 1,900 Army personnel in the biggest security operation since the 2012 London Olympics. The news comes as Al Qaeda warned that France was only its third preferred target after Britain and the US.

January 11, 2015 RT
Paris massacre possible prelude to wave of Europe-wide attacks – media citing NSA    
The deadly events that unfolded in France over the last week may be the first in a wave of attacks to strike Europe, a German daily reports, citing NSA intercepts of communications between Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) leaders

12 jan 2015 RT
Up to 6 terror-cell members may be at large after Paris attacks – police

12 jan 2015 RT
Web of terrorism: Charlie Hebdo gunman’s mentor had links to UK and Abu Hamza

12 jan 2015 Activist Post
ISIS Just So Happens to Hack CENTCOM While Obama Is Announcing New Cyber Security Legislation? Could it really get any more convenient than this? 

11 Jan 2015 
Ain't that the truth! 3 Million Brainwashed zombies and hypocrites

11 Jan 2015 Mondoweiss
The Moral hysteria and blindness of Je suis charlie

MUST WATCH Dieudonné and muslims vs French Jews on Muhammad Cartoons

January 12 Jan 2015 Press TV

Netanyahu under scathing fire over uninvited visit to Paris for rally
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has opened the floodgates of criticism by going uninvited to the rally in Paris held in protest at recent killings in the French capital.  Israeli media reported on Monday that France had asked the Israeli premier to stay away from the weekend solidarity march, but Netanyahu ignored the request.
“It was embarrassing, not to say disgraceful, to see Israel’s prime minister yesterday trying to push his way onto a bus that he was not supposed to board, making his way determinedly from the second row (where he was placed) to the row of leaders walking in front (which he took over), behaving in a mourning parade as in an election rally,” wrote the rightwing Maariv newspaper.

January 12 2015 Press TV
Hollande asked Netanyahu not to join Paris rally: Reports


Der Spiegel: Mikhail Gorbachev Warns of Major (Nuclear) War In Europe

Top Russian, American and Polish Leaders Warn that Continued Fighting In Ukraine Could Lead to Nuclear War

Must-read: The Road To War With Russia
The really bizarre part of this story is that I cannot yet find any credible analysis or commentary explaining exactly what the US's compelling interests are in Ukraine, nor what the end goal might be. It's all something of a mystery, compounded substantially by the fact that Russia can be a very powerful ally or enemy to have.  Why not choose ally? Why choose enemy?

The Guardian Finally Starts to Report the Truth about Ukraine’s War

We Are Entering An Era Of Shattered Illusions
Catastrophe occurs when too many people refuse to accept that around us always are two universes at work. There is the cold, hard reality that underlies everything. And on the surface is a veil of deceit and compromise. The more humanity compromises vital truths in order to enjoy the comfort of illusions, the more mind-shattering it will be when those illusions fall away. These two worlds can coexist only for short periods of time, and they will always and eventually collide. There is no other possible outcome.

Ron Paul: "Reality Is Now Setting In For America... It Was All Based On Lies & Ignorance"
We now live in a police state. If we do not recognize and resist this development, freedom and prosperity for all Americans will continue to deteriorate. All liberties in America today are under siege. Reality is now setting in for America and for that matter for most of the world. We should not be discouraged. Enlightenment is not nearly as difficult to achieve as it was before the breakthrough with Internet communications occurred.

By X22Report Central Banker propagandists push the idea that we're in "recovery".  Apparently retails stores closing, mortgage declines, record auto loan defaults and labor non-participation rate are all signs of recovery. Something's brewing, prepare yourself wisely. Italy's jobless rate is at all time highs and getting worse. Corporate media and government are convincing everyone that it is ok that Greece leave the EU. Greek's are starting to make a run on the banks. Unemployment dropped to 5.6% with more people unemployed. Baltic Dry Index drops again, showing manufacturing is imploding. Obama pushes new agenda, free 2 year community college. US boosting military capacity in Europe. The false flag terrorist brothers have been killed. The Islamic State is taking credit for the attacks. Al-Qaeda/Islamic State is now threatening UK, Germany and the US with mass casualties. Be prepared for more false flag events.

Written in 2008-2012:

We don't know the future but if things keep heading the way the Western elites want, then logic dictates that these 4 scenarios will converge in the same short period of time (the 5th on top of all this might be a another false flag as the crucial catalyst) particularly when the petro-dollar reserve currency starts to topple fast - they need war as another smoke screen and muddy waters at the breaking point of no return:

Prognosis for the forseeable future -  4  scenarios will converge simultaneously:   
* Wars and Invasions expand suddenly (Middle East, Ukraine, Asia, etc.)   

* Internet Breakdowns/Killswitch - multiple servers/websites being taken out (already happened and is ongoing) - internet restrictions in effect, dissidents censored, etc. 

* Economic Breakdown scenarios, Bond Crash, Stock Market Crash, etc. 

* Draconian State measures take effect, Martial Law, individual freedom restricted, much more surveillance and (further) loss of Civil Liberty Rights  

And the counter scenario following:  

* Huge global resistance and protests against the war and the biggest demonstrations for peace the world has ever seen 

* Innnovation and bypassing of internet-restrictions, Deep Web, Darknet, rerouting, protests, etc.

* Innovation of local currencies, Bitcoin, barter, self-suffiiciency, solar, city farming, biodomes, decentralization, free energy, 3D printers, etc. 

* Civil disobedience and courage, millions of NGO's, activists, underground,  protests, breakdown and
exposure of governments, etc.
Dee Hock: (Dee Hock is a visionary philosopher and the inventor of the VISA credit card, the founder and former CEO of Visa International):
“I think we're on the knife's edge where we're going to undergo cataclysmic institutional failure. We have it all over the world. Look at some of the countries that are in a state of perpetual starvation and revolution; there's just no present institutional structure capable of dealing with societal complexity and diversity with anything other than more centralization of power and increasing violence and force. So we'll have one of two possible scenarios. The first would be
that we'll have a massive series of institutional failures, social anarchy, and enormous societal and biological carnage
  —far more than we now experience — and then maybe out of that will emerge these new concepts. But I think if we do experience massive institutional failure, the first thing that will emerge, before we see the new forms, is almost total centralization of power and control, which will result in a widespread loss of liberty and freedom
[2015?]. That will last for a while,but it ultimately will not work, much like the Soviet Union. And when that collapses, then we're in for a second period of social carnage that will be

                - Dee Hock, interview-excerpt, 2002


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